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Agree that professors don’t indoctrinate kids into leftism, classes are obviously self selection. IDK why the right ever embraced this conspiracy theory

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Too often complaints of “self-censorship” boil down to “my classmates disagree with me, and I don’t like it.”

This is true because a lot of the power in the right wing goes to bad-faith showboats like Hannity, Tucker, Charlie Kirk, etc.

The problem is that this:

“ In no way do I, nor anyone else for that matter, believe that people speaking in good faith should be ostracized.”

is NOT how a lot of the strident left behaves. They go after and ruthlessly bully the proverbial moderates you mention (who are just sitting in the MSC or trying to use a public group chat) and people who are explicitly saying they want to understand other’s thoughts, like Shannon.

By and large while I wouldn’t say you straw man (again, a lot of the anti PC crowd are just rightwing PCers) but you certainly do not steelman. The proper observation is not that progressives disagreeing is inherently silencing. It’s that a vocal subset of progressives 1) overperceives bIgOtRy where it isn’t there and 2) under that banner defames and degrades innocuous people. This isn’t “discussion “ either

In other words you have the right to a radar but if you’re radar is oversensitive your average claim is more spurious. And spurious charges of XYZ-phobia are intensely harmful.

Again to reiterate you correctly note that a lot of the anti cancel culture movement is just opportunist conservatism, but you unwittingly fall for the fallacy of concluding there’s no legitimate argument to be made there

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